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Dan Ivascyn: For many of you that have longer term capital, that can be patient and weather volatility, it's a great environment and it's going to be a great environment to put capital to work. We are seeing value, particularly in the new issue markets of the credit related sectors, but some of the easy money has already been made, particularly if you're looking at legacy instruments or more of a beta focus across these areas of the market. The private markets have yet to come to grip with the shock that we have been facing. When you look at quarter-end valuations, when you look at other levered credit vehicles out there in the marketplace, the marks do not yet reflect the fundamental economic deterioration. We just begun the default cycle, the re-pricing cycle, in that area of the market. So, we think it's one of the highest conviction opportunities out there, but it's critically important that investors are patient, because the size of the problem is going to create opportunities for many months, and even many years to come. You can take advantage of what's going to be forced selling, not necessarily disorderly selling, but forced selling, or motivated selling, from a lot of market participants that are regulated, based on rating. Even at PIMCO, a lot of our client mandates within their guidelines, have various rules around ratings requirements. So, again, I think this is a tremendous opportunity and why we're seeing so much interest from our clients for credit-related strategies that aren't just looking to dive in and take advantage of the dislocation we've witnessed over the course of the last several months. But more patient capital, that could be deployed on an opportunistic basis, to be the liquidity provider for what's ultimately going to be an elongated cycle with, unfortunately for the markets, more broadly, a decent amount of forced selling. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. Don't take too much volatility if you don't need to. And I think when you look at the opportunity set broadly across the credit segments of the fixed-income universe, especially if you can get into the slightly less liquid segments of the market. We think you can earn equity-like returns or even exceed equity-like returns. You are going to have forced sellers that can't deal with the complexity, that can't deal with the rating but in exchange for taking on that type of risk, you have a profile with considerable upside but potential meaningful downside protection if we happen to be wrong. And after the more recent rally we've seen in developed market equities, particularly in the United States in the growth-related sectors, we do think that some of these opportunities stack up extremely well versus their public equity alternatives.
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